PFF - have y'all seen this

SWJJ said
I'm a fan of Winston, and do not think he has had a fair shake in NOLA, but starting him over Carr would be ridiculous.

It's ridiculous because we just gave him a $150 million contract. But @TribuneUK asked my opinion (even though I know he didn't really want to talk from a football perspective) which one would I start and gave him an answer from both an objective standpoint (it all depends on the offense that is ran) and from a subjective standpoint.

jahsoul357 said
Now personally, if I had to pick a QB to build my system around between those 2, I would pick Jameis every day of the week; why?
*When DC4 got into a completely different and complex system with a crazy coach, his TD rate went up but his completion percentage dropped, his yards per game went down, and his interception rate increased.
*When Jameis got into a completely different and complex system with a crazy coach, his TD rate went up, his yards per game went, his completion percentage dropped, his interception rate exploded, but he still led the #3 team in both scoring and yards WITHOUT a run game.

But when you actually peel back the layers of that 2019 season, it shows a lot more and for those that really know football know that we dodge a bullet with the Bucs thinking short term vs long term. Because the truth is, both Carr and Winston would have been much better 2nd season in McDaniels' and Arians' systems, respectively. Imagine a QB throwing 5k yards and 33TDs in what is said to be their worst season because they are still learning the system and then things "click."

Not to mention the fact that he is better on 1st down, 3rd down, TD rate, RZ conversion, CPOE, EPA, YPG, TD per game, against the blitz (and sadly, have to mention "when healthy" since everyone will default to last season), and other objective and subjective metrics. (like ESPN QBR for instance). Information it looks like @TribuneUK can't present in his "defense" of Carr. Carr just throws less interceptions, as do most people who dink and dunk the majority of their throws. Drew averaged 15 interceptions a season in his prime. Those numbers dropped dramatically when he body forced him into a dink and dunk offense. Is this saying that Carr is bad? Not even close but as I told him the other day, most stats and metrics lean towards Jameis.

At the end of the day, I want the Carr led Saints to beat every team we face, but being really real, he wasn't an upgrade. He was just DA's "guy." Nothing wrong with that but it is what it is.

TribuneUK said
I asked Oak, not you, but thanks anyway. Your position is already crystal clear 🙂

The post of a man that has nothing. Crazy how you can go from

TribuneUK said
I'll ask you the same question again, just in case you think I missed the non-answer:

To not even being able to answer a simple question your dang self. Funny how things turn out when you actually have to qualify something.