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You put me in a weird position because I like Winston.
But Carr has a better Career Completion Percentage and a better winning Percentage.
Regarding completion percentage, I spoke this before and this is why I mentioned that it was tricky to
@Rexman100
But some how still come ahead in metrics against QB1...
For example, since 2015, from behind the line of scrimmage to 10 yards out, their completion percentage is virtually identical.
Winston: 1088/1418 = 76.7%
Carr: 2191/2836 = 77.2%
From 10-20 yards, Jameis is the more accurate of the 2
Winston: 535/895 = 59.7%
Carr: 487/875 = 55.6%
But because Jameis threw the intermediate pass at a higher volume (much higher, when you consider the fact that Carr play 40+ more games during this time period), their behind the line to 20 yards completion percentage ends up like:
Winston: 1623/2313 = 70.1%
Carr: 2678/3711 = 72.1%
This is why Winston has a higher CPOE compared to Carr.
But here is the kicker. Before getting into Gruden's offense and Jameis going to Arians offense, they were dang near statically identical.
And their winning percentages are extremely close:
Carr: .444
Winston: .442
Winston has had significantly better talent surrounding him on offense.
Who?
Even though Carr has 2100 more attempts and 14000 more yards, and 80 more touchdowns, they have virtually the same number of interceptions.
We can talk about the interceptions but what is also glaring is that in 2100 more pass attempts, he only has 80 more TDs.
So despite all your stats, the traditional stats QBs are measured in: Completion Percent, TD:INT Ratio 4th Comeback drives, and Winning Percentage, Carr tops Winston in all of them.
You can't name one person who cared about a 4th quarter comeback "stat" until that became a talking point for Carr...lol. All joking aside, the only real thing people would have to rest their hat on is TD:INT ratio but does that really matter when you aren't throwing TDs at a high rate? Drew didn't hit the mythical 2:1 ratio until the 2013 season. Matter of fact, at the end of Drew's full 9th year starting, he had nearly 40 more interceptions than Carr while throwing 200 less passes. He also had 20 more TDs than Carr.
Crap, Dalton had a 2:1 ratio this past season and we were bottom 10 in points.
Try not to be frustrated. You might need to double check yourself, as I haven't presented any "defense" of Carr - I'm not seeking to. That's why I don't need to pull up selective stats and assertions to support a straw man.
What I have done is pointed out the fact that you have only engaged with this thread for one reason, to run down Carr because you think Jameis should start. Everything else is just picking any cherry you can come up with to try to justify that, while simultaneously making excuses for everything JW usually gets criticised for.
It's pretty plain how you operate, it's on every thread where you post about any Saints QBs. I've just helped you to be more honest about it this time 😉
So saying that Carr has legitimate red flags is "running down" on him? You never once heard me say that Jameis should start; that's your straw man. And even then, I said if I am building an offense around those 2, this is who I would start. That is why specifics burn down a strawman every time.
Now personally, if I had to pick a QB to build my system around between those 2, I would pick Jameis every day of the week; why?
Because I knew you really didn't want to talk football, I was very specific in my wording. That is the beauty of seeing the strawman argument you were building from a mile away.
And you can speak to me cherry picking anything because I didn't. Only people that say I cherry picked something only do it because you got information your "eye test" didn't give you. ;)