PFF - have y'all seen this
If Carr is the same guy as last year, we are in for a long season. But I think most are willing to give him a mulligan considering just how dysfunctional that situation was.
I agree. I've said several times that I think the problem with Carr last season was he was not able to fully grasp the offense and he needed more time but there was probably behind the scenes issues, like McDaniels wanting his guy.
My worry has always been scoring with Carr because truth be told, if Carr is the same QB from the last 5 years, we will need the Lutz of old more than ever. Putting up yards wasn't the issue with the Raiders; it was the scoring touchdowns that was their problem and I don't know if it was coaching, scheming, or Carr. Might be a combo of them.
I haven’t deep dived into Carrs play at the Raiders under JM. Did he struggle did he not struggle? Did he not comprehend the system or was it a physical limitation? Both? Neither?. I don’t know, but what I do know is that the Raiders hired a coach that has extremely strong ties with Jimmy G. And now he’s their QB. And his QB (Carr) at the time was cut before the season ended. Coincidence? I think not. Did JM really give Carr a fair shake? Not at all. Imagine your reaction if it was JW being cut in that manner. At least when JW went out it was to injury and not financial.
about JW/DB comparisons: We were devastated by a hurricane in 2005 and prior to that til 1967, that’s 38 years, the Saints only mustered one playoff win. In 2006, we not only win the division and a playoff game, we make it to the NFC Championship. The Saints fans went from absolutely zero hope to Supernowl hopeful in 1 year. So you can’t bring up 2007, without acknowledging 2006. Because of this tremendous accomplishment DB and SP have earned the right to be without scrutiny, be it warranted or not. Comparing any Saints QB to Db is pointless. It became clear immediately that SPs system and QB were the right fit. DB ypa dropped in his later years, that’s to be expected.
because his IAY is higher than most : One specific criticism I recall vividly, is that JW held on to the ball too long only to throw deep into tight coverage, incomplete. While the middle of the field was WIDE open. So wide open that kamara later complained that he wasn’t getting the ball. This tells me that JW has not yet gotten comfortable with the system. The system as we’ve heard many many times, is take what the defense gives you. He did not do this, he forced the ball when he should’ve dumped it off or hit the wide open WR over the middle. And again, the only reason JW is not the QB is due to injury. Then why did he lose his job when he was finally healthy? Was he ever healthy? Was he an ascending player in the first few games? Ans: Slowly. He needed at least 3-4 more games to see.
I completely understood the 2006 season. That doesn't dismiss the fact that he threw 1TD to 9 INTs in 2007 and you proved my point. Because of the deification of Drew Brees and the fact that we made him blameless, we don't know how to properly evaluate a QB. I said this last year:
I know exactly what he did in 2006 but many here have this unrealistic view of who Brees was. We made him this mythical figure who has never lost us game with bad play, never threw horrible interceptions, and always put the ball at the right spot. None of these are true but you better believe he was one of the greatest to ever play the position. The "deification" of Brees has turned this fanbase into one of the WORST at evaluating QB play, especially when plays don't show on ESPN.
We want to compare everything to the "godly" image of Drew that we made in our heads so any QB that fit some positive statistical measure that Drew obtained has to be good and anything other than the what we blocked from memory is bad. Also, "SP's system and the QB" weren't the right fit, per se. Sean Payton tailor made the system for Drew.
https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/...cle_d13b5d52-88c8-11eb-83b6-63284d7165d9.html
This is what the great coaches do. This is why I tell people that the Saints never ran a WCO offense in Drew's prime. SP built the system for what Drew knew and anyone that really paid attention to 2021 could see he was doing the same.
You cherry pick and manipulate data or fine tune it to paint whatever picture you want it to. You "break down" winning percent, completion percent, or literally everything. You have done it over and over.
Also no one's take except your matters.
What did I cherry pick? I didn't break down winning percentage; that is their career winning percentages. I only broke down completion percentage to show how using that as a gauge doesn't really mean much when they played in completely different offensive systems. How can you compare the completion percentage of someone who averages 10 yards per throw to one that averages 7. That's why Jameis' CPOE is higher than Carr's
As far as "Who?" you are being purposefully obtuse. It's the loaded roster that Tom Brady took to a super bowl. He was throwing to Mike Evans and Chris Goodwin. He Literally had 2 Probowl WR on his team. OJ Howard at TE. He even had Desean Jackson and Payton Barber to throw to for a couple of seasons.
The roster that was so loaded that they had to draft a O-lineman in the first round, recruit a RB, HOF TE, grab AB, and then for the cherry on top, grabbed a proven kicker. And even with that, they were still 7-5 going into the bye week until they chunked "no risk it, no biscuit" in the trash can. The fact that you believe that was the same roster or even the same offense shows who the one is being obtuse. Especially when you realize that the main difference with that team was the second year under Bowles.