PFF - have y'all seen this
Your facts are wrong:
Carr was drafted in 2014; with Dennis Allen (1) drafting him
Allen was fired that year, Tony Sparano (2) took over
Sparano was not retained that year and Jack Del Rio (3) took over
2018 Del Rio was not retained, Gruden (4) was hired to a mega contract
Gruden had his scandal in 2021 and was not retained; Josh McDaniels (4) hired as HC in 2022
I should have been more clear but you validated what I said. Carr was coached by Del Rio and Gruden for a total of 6 years and then Gruden resigned after the email stuff.
Saying Grudens staff was in place is like saying Paytons staff was in place for Andy Dalton; how did that work out?
They went 10-6 and made the playoffs. Stone Cold Daniel Carlson's foot was golden that season...lol
"Carr had great coaching" is LOL if I have ever read it. No part of the above was great coaching, including Gruden who I love. (but he did have his best seasons under him)
Del Rio/Musgrave and Gruden/Olsen were great coaching combos. Did they have their flaws, yeah, but they were great coaches. And honestly, I've read some that some fans believe that 2017 went to the dumps because Del Rio got rid of Musgrave, for unknown reasons:
https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nf...eased-influence-on-raiders-game-plan/1319759/
And things actually began coming together for Carr his 3rd season under Gruden. That is the one season where you can say, with you chest, that defense is what let the Raiders down. Gruden situation and Ruggs being an idiot (and that sucks because he is from the Gump) derailed their 2021, but their real issue was the run game went down, as that what they were leaning on heavy in those early wins.
Lets not compare any franchise to Oakland, especially the high and mighty New England Patriots who have held the top spot for a while. Oakland is not like any franchise, it is a dumpster fire where careers go to die. McDaniels will not have a better season next year and my guess is Oakland will continue their tradition of failure.
Oakland is not the only dumpster fire franchise in the NFL. The Jets, Browns, Bucs, and Jaguars all have a seat at that table.
If Jamie's so good, why was he in an open competition with Taysom Hill for the starting QB job. Last year, he got replaced by Andy Dalton for heavens sake.
Some theorized that Taysom only got that because CSP promised him a shot but truth be told, who knows if it was really an open competition. And dude had a broken back and a ruptured tendon in his foot that I think he is still rehabbing for.
The coaches know he is not a franchise QB. He's now very gun-shy and timid. Throwing 33 in's will do that to you.
While throwing 30 interceptions, the Bucs were still #3 in points and yards. That's the thing that people really don't talk about.
He's playing scared when he's on the field. You can't do that as a starting QB.
Sadly, that's been a knock against Carr since he broke his leg in 2016. Hopefully, the boys up front keep him safe.