Also, on the point of the thread, I like Haener, I liked the pick and glad so far it's looking good. And what's really important is that Haener isn't just some guy who plays football - he's a QB. Starting calibre QB's are like gold dust and largely separates the haves from the have nots in the NFL. So if Haener becomes something, that's a force multiplier for this draft class - everyone else could be average, ok, whatever, but if you get a starting QB out of it, especially in the middle rounds, this is a A grade draft.