Jake Haener

I appreciate you sharing the article again. I still hold the same opinions on Haener, maybe even more so than before, after reading the article.

- He mentions arm length as a detriment to ball speed. With an arm length of 29.75”, Haener’s arms are more than an inch shorter than QB’s identified as having the shortest arms in that draft class. His ceiling is set lower by default.
- Haener has a slower release than what people think, he has to wind up his throws. He also has a slower trigger speed than what gets claimed, but I’ll give him a pass on that as he learns the playbook and gets opportunities with better skill players.
- On a slower release/slower ball speed, the author mentions .05 seconds being significant enough to be late. Haener was .31 seconds late at my best estimate on the throw I looked at, he’s going to get picked if he can’t speed up. I mentioned in another post he probably can’t because he needs to step into his throw to drive the ball. Easy to do in 7-on-7, not so easy with the pocket collapsing around you.

Here are two clips I captured that show Carr vs Haener on release for a similar distance throw, Carr let’s it loose on his reset where Haener has to load up, costing him around .12-.15 seconds just on the release. His trigger speed was also very slow on this play, but again I’m not going to beat him up about it just yet.

Edit: had the videos on a different device, here they are:


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I see what you see. His mechanics can improve