Are you willing to get the Covid vaccine when offered?

sonicboom said
That would certainly fit into your point of view.

While i wait for your timestamp, I'll go ahead and respond. I prefer facts over an unsourced post with no context.

sonicboom said
I need to explain?

Yes you do.

sonicboom said
Sorry Dave, watch the video, and if you have questions, please contact the FDA..

I watched the segment of the guy you posted. The slide you posted isn't in there. Regardless, the video posted is a nearly 9 hour advisory committee presentation on a wide variety of topics related to vaccines, effectiveness, safety, strategies, recommendations, etc. A lot of what they discussed were preliminary findings and not intended to be binding or conclusive. Basically they make recommendations on how to improve processes and systems.

sonicboom said
My post was to see if any one believes the possible side effects were true, from your response, it seems you doubt everything, so I got your answer.

The slide you posted was a DRAFT: Working list of possible adverse event outcomes. My assumption is that it's based on data collected by the VAERS system, which is not intended to be anything more than a data aggregation method to get a preliminary warning on possible side effects from the vaccine. It's not a scientific study. The side effects are undocumented. Anyone can fill out the reports and put whatever they want in them. If there are trends that warrant concern, then the CDC or proper agency would run a scientific study to find out if the reporting trend is caused by the vaccine or something else. The list is pretty meaningless without studies to verify the veracity of the reports.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/monitoring/vaers/index.html
Below is a quote from the linked page.

As an early warning system, VAERS cannot prove that a vaccine caused a problem. Specifically, a report to VAERS does not mean that a vaccine caused an adverse event. But VAERS can give CDC and FDA important information. If it looks as though a vaccine might be causing a problem, FDA and CDC will investigate further and take action if needed.

sonicboom said
Not unless you intended to state something else. If you just want to discredit the video, that's fine, my job isn't to defend it, since I didn't state the information.

I'm not at all discrediting the video. I actually think you're misrepresenting what the screen shot means. That's why I asked you for context which you refused to provide.

sonicboom said
Here it is again..

Do you believe these side effects have become true, or just precautionary? (The question stated a second time.)

I don't know. I know that this isn't what you think it is. I explained what it is above. I do think there may be some possible side effects. But I'd rather let the scientific studies make the case. I'm not an epidemiologist.

sonicboom said
I have given the link and asked a question.

A link...well, not even a link, a screenshot with no timestamp, with zero context is pretty useless.

sonicboom said
I'm not explaining the intent, it should be self explanatory.

You should explain why you posted it and why it's meaningful in the context of this discussion.

sonicboom said
My original post was just to seek people's personal opinion, if nobody agrees with it that got vaccinated, than I understand. Why is this so difficult? lol

Sounds more like you're just looking for someone to agree with you. Really the opposite of critical thinking.

sonicboom said
From my experience, those that have not got vaccinated, believe these side effects have merit.

This makes absolutely no sense. How can they know the side effects have merit if they haven't been vaccinated? I think they're assuming because of their biases, not because of anyone's particular reported side effects.

sonicboom said
I'm not going any further with the explanation, because I will have to post more links, which people won't believe, even though I think they are credible.

I'll evaluate each link on its own merits. Some probably are credible, some clearly not.

sonicboom said
It may not be everyone that didn't get vaccinated, but the majority seem to have believed this to be true in millions of cases.

How do you figure?

sonicboom said
Still waiting for that apology that I was promised. :)

I'll let whoever made a promise answer. :9: