Israel (now broader Mid East discussion)

guidomerkinsrules said

but they can't (shouldn't) be disregarded - there's no palestinian/hamas/et al reaction here without the context of israeli war crimes
if Israel does not want this happening to its citizens, there's a simple fix (not easy but simple)

and tbc i am NOT condoning these actions - i am talking about what a bad idea this is to frame this exclusively from the Israeli pov

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I don't think we're going to get additional context from Hamas that makes this feel like anything other than terrorism.

If we were talking a battle against military forces, it'd be one thing, but we're seeing civilians targeted from the jump.

It's not even like Russia/Ukraine, where there were eventually accusations of targeting civilians. This targeted civilians from the beginning. That's terrorism, full stop.

You wouldn't get 9/11 without various American involvements in the Middle East, but it's still 9/11.