Didn't have this many "come to Jesus" moments under Payton

those 7-9 seasons yes we did, and people wanted him fired even though they were transition years to get from under bad contracts and bad defenses, but Payton rectified it eventually and we started averaging 10-11 wins a year with DA as DC, and now DA is in that same boat and needs to fix the offense.

Its easier to sell that to people when you go to the NFCCG in your first season. Not starting 4-9 on top of your 8-28 record from the last team you failed with.