Medical reasons why Saints may have passed on RB Tyjae Spears

livefromDC said
I get it. Everyone can't learn calculus. Some of us are just concrete thinkers. BPA is simply BPA. Tagging on "position of need" only serves to to help you feel better about it. And it's funny, it's always in hindsight when unpopular picks switch from being "that was stupid" to "no, no, no that was a need, here's why!" Kamara of course is an example, but Alontae Taylor is another good example. It was left field when it happened, but now in hindsight, "you know what...that was a need", LOL. You view every pick's value in hindsight so you can claim victory for BPA. You're a broken record...but the thread literally exist where we can go back and see the proof.

And when the Saints have drafted to fill a need...the Davenports, Turners, Pennings, etc. When the Saints went into the draft specifically to fill a certain position, the results are poorer than when they've selected BPA. And I'm not saying which was need or BPA, we CAN GO BACK TO THE THREADS, Drafting need just arbitrarily decreases the player pool whereas drafting BPA (BPA at a position of need, lol) increases the likelihood you hit on a good player. This is that calculus I was talking about. Arbitrarily limiting who you can draft to one position, has been and always will be a bad idea. You don't have to understand it. You don't have to get it. The Eagles do and that's why their roster is where it is right now. They take advantage of teams that are drafting based on need.

Listen man, would it help you if I just post the quote of Loomis saying that they draft BPA at a position of need? It's like you think I came up with this explanation myself.

Insinuating I'm too stupid to understand common sense would be enough to irritate me on a regular day but because I know that most comments like that typically fit the person better if they stand in the mirror and say it to themselves I'm not offended. It's you struggling here but i mean, hey I'll post the quote...just give me the greenlight.

Alright, so I found a quote, not the one I was looking for which was far more recent but it's from 2011.

To your point - Loomis admits that they are always trying to fill needs in FA so that they can ultimately draft the BPA. That's what they "want" to do, and that's known. But as I've been saying all along, you don't always FILL the need prior and so it is still potentially a need when it's your time to pick. IF the player is graded high and it's also a position of need, relative to other positions that may be "wants" the team will most times draft for the need.

Obviously to your point that doesn't always workout and unfortunately that's the case more often than not. Typically a team is unable to fill every single must and need prior to the draft and they are forced to select a need. All teams reach, it happens at QB position probably the most.

So I think at this point this is less argument, and more misunderstanding. I'm definitely not saying teams go into a draft zeroing in a position and will select that position no matter what regardless of value. That would be stupid, however every team aspires to draft BPA and some teams depending on how the roster is built, and how successful their offseason was, they are afforded that luxury. But more often than not...they end up having to take BPA at a position of need. It is what it is .

Without naming names, in the last nine years, how many times have you taken a first round pick with the highest grade?

"It's a good question. I don't know. I'd have to go back and look at each year. I will say this that we have never taken a player that is significantly lower than the guys above him. There may be cases where the grades weren't close. We haven't taken someone who's graded significantly lower."

We're always trying to get to this point without a glaring need so that we can draft the best player available to us. Even though the different aspects of the draft and free agency are reversed this year, we're still going to approach it like we're going to take the best player for a team that's available to us."

If I can find the more direct quote of Loomis saying their goal is to draft BPA but most times position of need forces the issue I will, but I'm leaving work.

Take care man,