Israel (now broader Mid East discussion)

J-Donk said

The most empathic view for Palestinians is to use an analogy of American Indians. It was their land. The British allowed settlers after the war. It was empathy, and guilt that allowed so many Jewish people in Palestine to begin with.

I mean the question not even being asked in this thread. Can you be the bad guy if you are fighting for your home? What acts actually go to far against an occupying force? They have already been forced on reservations, and are slowly being squeezed out of those.

Hamas is clearly wrong, the same way American Indians that killed innocent civilians in the frontier of old.

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Except that's not necessarily true. Jewish people have lived in that region for multiple millennium (4,000 years or thereabouts). Wars and fighting over land/territory in that region have gone on for as far back as we know. That's not the case with the Indians who clearly arrived and settled long before Columbus arrived. There's not really any debate about who settled in the USA first.

I think both have claim to the land in the region and that's why a 2 state solution is needed. But, both haven't ever compromised on what the settled borders of the 2 states would be. It's partly why this has gone on 75 years, not to mention going back much, much further.