These are the types of responses we immediately start seeing when someone mentions Grupe as a liability.
Some of the forum has developed an overprotective older sibling complex toward him, for whatever reason.
I theorize that some (not specifically the quoted poster, as I don't necessarily remember him doing this) are doing so because there was a lot of LOL GOOD RIDDANCE re: Lutz after the trade from some of our posters. And now they are back pedaling to justify their positions