Derek Carr - Why People Dislike Him (IMO)

jahsoul357 said
I talked about that actually.

Manning brought his offense to Denver and Tom Brady began bring in elements of NE's offense during the bye week in 2020. He went from running a scaled down version of Arians' offense to simplifying it and adding Patriots elements..lol. The next season, the Bucs offense looked closer to the Patriots than anything that Arians has ever drawn up.

Again, being a system QB doesn't mean that you can't QB. Mastering a system system for all those years is why they were elite. They know everything about it and while in that offense, has seen everything that can counteract certain things. That's how they got better with certain things. And this was actually during a time when skill actually mattered, instead of today where skill players outweigh QB skill.

I see your points, but i’d argue Brees was pretty good before Payton it just took a while for san diego to field a decent team around him. Same goes for when he came to the saints. Once he got the pieces(o line being the most important piece) he took his play to another level. Not a shot at coach SP, he was good in his own right, but Brees is a hall of famer and would have been good no matter what system. It’s more about having the right players around you.