Denver media absolutely shreds Payton..

Unless your definition of mediocre is “any team that doesn’t win the SB,” we were definitely not stuck in mediocre since we won the SB. We had many double-digit win seasons and playoff wins.

Exactly, if you would prefer to go back to 20 seasons without a winning one.....or (Mora years) getting bounced in the 1st playoff game every year, then your definition of mediocrity is....lets say....."curious" if you are a lifelong Saints fan.....

Brees carried the team in spite of SP. SP did not add value. Did the team fold when he was suspended? No. Did the team look much worse when Brees retired? Yes.

This may be the most idiotic statement I've ever read on this board.....it's not that your view is "unpopular" it's that it completely detached from reality.....