Not sure I understand the arguement some make that we need to just wait another season and then fire DA.

saintlad said
I'm for keeping Dennis Allen one more year

This is perfect for Loomis to clear up as much cap space as possible and take the hit in 2024.

Two scenarios

Dennis Allen would have to play with his hands tied behind his back and go with young cheap players .
If he happens to field good team with the salary cap issue, then fine.
Plus we still have to pay Derek Carr another year.

2nd scenario we power through 2024 with a bad record, but we clear up the salary cap, get rid of DA, and have a high draft pick in 2025

Better to get a new quality coach with a healthy salary cap and a high draft pick

3rd scenario: we get a new HC for 2024 season, who proceeds to coach up the nearly exact same roster; but with better game-planning, accountability, and maximizing the talents of those players already on hand. An average to above-average coach would have the current roster winning about 10-11 games (barring unforseen injuries) with the same roster already in place....possibly (likely?) winning a division title along the way. Then proceed with roster re-build in 2025 season, cleaning cap in the process, and already with a handle on what THAT coach is looking for in "his" players.

Every year that DA has his fingerprints on this team, is just delaying the return to winning attitudes by +1 season. I'm okay with the losing that comes with the growing pains. What I'm NOT okay with is the lack of improvement, and the flashing of future improvements. This team has shown NO IMPROVEMENT whatsoever in DAs 32-game tenure. There is NOTHING I can see in the next 2 games that would override my opinion of the previous 32. Quit delaying the inevitable. Bite the bullet, do what needs to be done, and hope for the best. I can deal with that.

I can't deal with "keep chopping wood" and "keep doing what you're doing", when there has been ZERO reason to suggest ANY progress is being made. If I keep doing what I'm already doing, I'll be avoiding Saints games for another season, and checking to see how the game went from my esteemed brothers on Saints Report. I'll do something different when the Saints organization does something different...