Derek Carr was a top 10 QB in 2023

TenTwo said
DVOA, EPA, ESPN QBR…sounds legit. 🙄

Actually, they are very legit and commonly used across the board. If you don't acknowledge it, that's fine but these metrics don't just take raw stats at surface. It looks at things on a per play basis, so we can't use the last 4 games to say that he played his way into a top 10 spot based on a boost from the last 4 games.

Deuuuuce said
The offense and defense work off of each other. If a QB has a good handle on the game , he usually doesn’t put the defense in bad spots. Turnovers, clock management, situational awareness, clutch plays all matter more to me than box scores. If that wasn’t the case why even watch the game?

For example if a QB throws a pick 6 , and then gets the ball back and drives 80 yards for a TD it looks ok on a stat sheet, but that’s not at all ok. Also what if the team scores on special teams thereby not allowing the quarterback to put up numbers?

Clock management is normally a function of the coaching but I get what you are saying. The thing with what you are saying is these thing don't show up in box scores but they are being accounted for in metrics. I like ESPN QBR because it is basically EPA/Play that accounts for the situation. It looks at turnovers but it looks at when, it looks at drops and pressures, among other things. But I digress.

I asked about the 7-9 seasons because defense always gets the blame but when you actually look at the losses, most of those losses had us losing either the turnover battle, time of possession, or both. So based on your criteria, who do we place the blame on?