Where ESPN ranked the 2009 Saints among 57 Super Bowl-winning teams

sfidc3 said

I think you are vastly underrating the 2009 defense here, they were clearly superior.....and the players that remained on it until 2011 were 2 years younger.....

In that 9er playoff game we turned it over 5 times, and only got 1 in return....

In the 2009 playoff run we turned it over only 1 time in 3 games, and the D got 8.....

I think you folks are looking at the bright shiny object (the 2011 Saints offense) and vastly underestimating everything besides....offense.....

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sf, they are right in the fact that we got a lot more of the extra breaks, less-damaging, self-inflicted wounds than our 2011 squad did in the post-season. The worst, most frustrating thing we did in that 2011 Divisional Playoff game was fall behind by almost 3 TDs and have to claw our way back into the contest and Niners wouldn't let us get ahead too far to feel comfortable.

I can say, as agonizing and painful as that January 2012 loss still feels over a decade ago, at least we didn't consciously and deliberately go out of our ways to choke it like Detroit did last week, being up 21-3 at halftime and having a dumbarse HC unnecessarily call over-aggressive, stupid plays in two situations where a FG wouldve worked better. Last week's NFCCG loss for Detroit has to be laid partly at the feet of Dan Campbell.