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You genuinely believe Brady is Brady without getting Hall of Fame defenses and the literal GOAT of placekickers to give him time to develop? You think Brady is still Brady if he had been drafted by the Lions?

Circumstances matter.

No one can say they expected Drew Brees to do what he did when the Saints signed him. He showed some potential at San Diego, but not first ballot Hall of Fame record shattering most ridiculous passer of all time potential. Brees needed an offensive mind who could build an offense that utilized his strengths. It was clear Brees eventually mastered his craft and put up absurd numbers regardless of who claimed to be the OC, but is Brees' the same guy he was in New Orleans if he goes to the Dolphins and has Nick Saban as HC?

All these guys need help. It is what it is.
Outside of Randy Moss, Tom Brady turned a bunch of dudes into solid to above-average WRs for 20 years. Gronk is another future HOFer, but I'm gonna chalk a good bit of that up to spending a decade with Brady (similar to the Brees effect on Jimmy Graham from 2011 to 2014).

If we're gonna start playing the "well look what kinda help he had in the beginning" game.......then does Mahomes get points subtracted for walking into an already-established AFC contender in 2017 with one of the best coaches in the league?