Dave Ziegler joining the Saints as an advisor for Free Agency and the draft (Saints permanently hire Ziegler as Personnel Advisor)

madsaint1967 said

Ireland is like a gambler that used to hit alot then gets on that cold Streak where nothing can work out. He needs a change, I know we do. For as good as a couple drafts were, the latest drafts have been mediocre at best.

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Ireland has been more above average since 2017. What we tend to do a lot is exaggerate how bad the draft classes are and write off the rest of the class when one pick doesn’t work out. One unsuccessful pick doesn’t define a class when there’s 2-3+ productive players drafted with them.

Foskey was in the same class with Bresee, Miller, Perry, and Howden. Turner was in the same class with Werner and Adebo. Penning was drafted with Olave and Taylor. The rest of the classes are severely ignored to the point as if Olave, Adebo, Werner, Taylor, Bresee and others were never drafted or doesn’t exist.

It’s still too early to write off Penning and Foskey.
It takes 2 or 3 full seasons to determine if a player won’t live up to expectations. Turner hasn’t been a bust in pressuring the QB.