I’m inclined to think the Saints would ideally like to leave this draft w/ Bowers

ELLIASJWILLIAMS said
Ahh, touche on the estimated times.

Listen, I see your argument, I understand your argument, but it's not my mind you have to change. It doesn't matter who you ask, even the guys who are fans of Bowers, they'll tell you...he's not a freak at TE. Whether you want to call that elite, generational, whatever you are tying your argument to...Bowers isn't THAT level of talent.

That’s not true though. There are a ton of people saying he is THAT level of talent. For example, he was clocked at 21.9 mph on his 89 yard touchdown by RAanalytics. To my knowledge that is the fastest time they have ever recorded by a TE. He has freakish speed for someone that is 240+ lbs. I also stand corrected on his prior 40 time out of high school, it was 4.48, which according to NFL Draft Buzz for TE’s would place him in the 98th percentile. That combined with a documented 40” vertical is absolutely freakish and rare to find.

ELLIASJWILLIAMS said
It's not saying he isn't a talent...it's just saying he's not a freak guy. You can find a ton of 6'3 243 TE's in drafts with his arm length and size. You can't find as many of them having great success in the NFL. It is what it is man, I don't know how else you want to hear it lol.

He’s not a freak because of his size, he’s a freak because of his rare explosive athleticism while being around the same size as some of the best TE’s in the NFL. Kittle, Laporta, Kincaid, and Mcbride all are very similar from a size perspective and have had a ton of success early on in their careers so far and look to be among the best TE’s in the NFL for the foreseeable future. None of them were as athletic or productive as Bowers coming into the NFL.