QB Zach Wilson traded to the Broncos

Artifactual said
On the surface I agree with the gist of what you're saying, however, as bad as the Bucs have been historically, they did get Some Juice from a Few of the QBs they Drafted. The following players had their Moments:

The following stats are based on a minimum of 25 starts for QBs Drafted by the Bucs. They have Drafted 24 QBs in their Team History.

Artifactual said
1978 1st Round - Doug Williams - 2nd in Wins with 32, 4th Most TDs with 73, 2nd Highest All-Time Winning Percentage @ .4925%
1987 1st Round - Trent Dilfer - 1st in Wins with 38, 5th Most TDs with 70, 3rd Highest All-Times Winning Percentage @ .4810%
1999 2nd Round - Shaun King - 6th in Wins with 20, Best Int. Percentage @ 3.1%, Highest All-Time Winning Percentage @ .6452%
2003 3rd Round - Chris Simms - I Reached A Bit Here I'll Give You That.
2015 1st Round - Jameis Winston - 3rd in Wins with 28, Most TDs with 121, 3rd Best Int. Percentage @ 3.5%, Most Yards with 19,737, Most Yards Per Game @ 274.1, Highest Yards Per Attempt @ 7.7, Highest Rating @ 86.9, 5th Highest All-Time Winning Percentage @ .3889%.

I did say "Some Juice", "A Few", and "Moments". Not suggesting HOF worthy by any means.

jahsoul357 said
Doug Williams - Seen as a bust for the Bucs. Got the juice in Washington and even then....smh (He was the 1st Black QB to Win a SB....smh)
Trent Dilfer - Took 4 years for him to actually do something and ended up signing with the Ravens as a backup. Now he is coaching my hometown team to a losing record...LOL
Shaun King - Eh....
Chris Simms - No...lol (Career Cut Short Due To Injury.) To your point let's substitute Josh Freeman. See Below.
Jameis - He is considered a bust and can't nobody really tell you why, other than "30 interceptions." lol

If we are looking at their time with the Bucs, Josh Freeman was probably better than 4 of the 5 that you listed. And this isn't even mentioning Steve Young...lol

I Missed on Josh Freeman.

He showed some Juice and had his Moments his first 4 years as a Buc and then was cut mid-way into his 5th season. He's tied for 4th in Wins with 24, 2nd Most TDs with 80, 2nd Most Yards Per Game @ 225.6, 2nd Best Int. Percentage @ 3.4%, 4th Highest All-Time Winning Percentage @ .4000. He flopped everywhere else he landed after leaving Tampa Bay. In short, pretty good for a Buc, not good at all elsewhere thereafter.

OK. Let's Mention Steve Young.

I didn't include Steve Young because he was Drafted in the Supplemental Draft in 1984 but didn't begin playing for the Bucs until 1985 where he only started 19 games over the 2 years he played there. He has the Lowest Win Total in Team History for Drafted Starters with only 3 Wins, the 3rd Worst QB Rating @ 63.1, and the Worst All-Time Winning Percentage @ .1579.

By using your logic and criteria to assess a Career beginning exclusively in Tampa Bay, Steve Young should be considered the biggest Bust of them all.

Also, it would be quite embarrassing to put up Comparative Stats for QBs Drafted and Developed by the Saints. Archie Who and Who Else?

Back on point to the original thread topic. Wilson may be a reclamation low risk high reward roll of the dice for Payton, but there's no way SP will begin the 2024 season with the QB room as it stands today. He'll have more moves than Jagger between now and then, imo. :biglol: