QB Zach Wilson traded to the Broncos

Artifactual said
The following stats are based on a minimum of 25 starts for QBs Drafted by the Bucs. They have Drafted 24 QBs in their Team History.

I did say "Some Juice", "A Few", and "Moments". Not suggesting HOF worthy by any means.

I Missed on Josh Freeman.

He showed some Juice and had his Moments his first 4 years as a Buc and then was cut mid-way into his 5th season. He's tied for 4th in Wins with 24, 2nd Most TDs with 80, 2nd Most Yards Per Game @ 225.6, 2nd Best Int. Percentage @ 3.4%, 4th Highest All-Time Winning Percentage @ .4000. He flopped everywhere else he landed after leaving Tampa Bay. In short, pretty good for a Buc, not good at all elsewhere thereafter.

I was legit scared that Josh Freeman was going to be a monster for them long term. I hope he is in a better mental space now, as I know he was dealing with things in the league.
But nobody really looks at those QBs f

Artifactual said
OK. Let's Mention Steve Young.

I didn't include Steve Young because he was Drafted in the Supplemental Draft in 1984 but didn't begin playing for the Bucs until 1985 where he only started 19 games over the 2 years he played there. He has the Lowest Win Total in Team History for Drafted Starters with only 3 Wins, the 3rd Worst QB Rating @ 63.1, and the Worst All-Time Winning Percentage @ .1579.

By using your logic and criteria to assess a Career beginning exclusively in Tampa Bay, Steve Young should be considered the biggest Busts of them all.

Steve Young would have easily been the biggest bust. And then he went to a 49ers team with one of the greatest coaches in the history of the NFL and showed the NFL that he was moreso a product of his environment. And that's my point; we are so quick to label quarterbacks (which are the most dependent position in the league) bust while totally ignoring the situations that they found themselves in or look at things from

Artifactual said
Also, it would be quite embarrassing to put up comparative stats for QBs Drafted and developed by the Saints. Archie Who and Who Else?

Back on point to the original thread topic. Wilson may be a reclamation low risk high reward roll of the dice for Payton, but there's no way SP will begin the 2024 season with the QB room as it stands today. He'll have more moves than Jagger between now and then, imo. :biglol:

Shoot, I made that point about us. I think I mentioned it in another post but we hang our hats on Archie and we ran him into the ground..lol. I think Wilson will do good with CSP because CSP puts you in a position to succeed because he actually implements things that you are good at. Everybody is like "he fixed Jameis," and I'm like, no he did. All he did was implemented more play-action and not have Jameis throw to receivers in small windows downfield like he had to do in Tampa. He simplified things for Russ last season (even though Russ was missing reads left and right). He will see what Wilson can do and go from there.