Demanding, Detailed, Accountable Klint Kubiak is winning over coaches and players alike

bobad said

Pete was not short on smarts and play design, but didn't seem to be an alpha that the players would study and play hard for. Payton backed him up, so he got by without being a strong personality.

Really, a team needs a HC that's the heart of both the offense and defense to prevent poaching of their assistants. No one was going to poach a DA or PC, so we kept them for years, many of which were very successful. The HC needs assistants that are loyal and 100% sold on his coaching philosophy.

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I disagree to an extent.

In what way was Sean Payton ever the heart of a defense? His entire tenure here he relied on strong defensive personalities to build the culture on the other side of the ball.

In fact, Payton had his DA/Carmichael experience with Gary Gibbs. He never hired that personality type again on the defensive side of the ball.

Sure you’d like John Harbaugh or even a Jim Harbaugh or Belichik where they create a culture that encompasses the team, but those guys are rare. You’re more likely to get a good offensive or defensive mind that relies on his counterpart to build up the other side of the ball.

We tend to remember Sean Payton in this mythical way but he was no different from DA in that his success was dependent on who he chose to run his defense, and when he chose wrong the results weren’t good