Bobby Hebert had a career 12-0 record against AFC Teams by 1991 as a Saint Quarterback
I think it was more like the Saints defense, offense and ST's were 12-0 against AFC teams in that time period.....
Herbert like Mora were both great during the regular season......but in the playoffs when leadership and coaching really matter, they both were exposed.....
CSP critics like to spout how he "wasted" so many years of Brees career because of bad D's.......Mora "wasted" perhaps the one of the best D's in history year after year because of predictable/plodding offenses.....neither of them every won a playoff game.....
CSP, to his credit, did provide superb leadership, coaching and some ballsy brinkmanship with his “Ambush” surprise onside-kick to begin the second half of SB 44 down to the Colts, and helped us win this franchise’s achievement. He also helped build ( and sustain) a lot more success post-2009 with more division titles, playoff wins, for another decade. Those were indeed the “golden years” of this franchise and team, a year period that seems almost mythical now even though Brees retired just over 3 years ago.
I do wish we’d been able to appear in and possibly win a few more SB’s (2011, 2018) and some of the criticisms aimed at Payton has significant merit, especially as it relates to overlooking or ignoring the need for strong, or at least mid-tier defenses, but perfect shouldn’t be the enemy of the good and unlike New England and now Kansas City, we weren’t as fortunate to have all the right pieces in the right places consistently reinforced with a fair share of good luck.
I will say this: he won’t admit it nor infer that he’s even considering such thoughts, but right now, Tom Brady probably is afraid, and maybe a bit jealous and envious of Patrick Mahomes. Not just on what he’s achieved so far in his first 6 seasons with 3 SB rings by the age of 28, but also he knows that if Mahomes stays healthy for the next decade, their’s a very decent possibility he might break most of his all-time NFL statistical records. Mahomes has also had 2-3 5,000-yard passing seasons and when he did it, he made it look almost effortless.