I chuckled at this Erik McCoy quote from a NOF Article

ELLIASJWILLIAMS said
I'm not here for it and tired of this argument. Before Sean Payton stumbled on Dennis Allen and Gregg Williams he had Gary Gibbs and Rob Ryan. Under the latter two, the defenses were meh or meh and unstructured. Bringing in the former resulted in better designed defenses as well as overall better play and accountability. In other words, Allen is no different than Payton in that he's a one side of the field coach that needs the other coach to instill the culture on that particular sideo f the ball so he can control HIS side of the ball. Winning does the rest and pulls the team itself together.

Tired of what argument? That accountability comes from the top?

First off, Gary Gibbs kinda got screwed because our offense was doing him no favors in most losses those last 2 seasons but that's neither here nor there. The defense performed MUCH better under Williams and was a huge reason for our 2009 season. That being said, there was zero doubt in our mind that Sean Payton was holding Ryan accountable for the screw ups with the defense. Sean Payton's issue was not firing Ryan at the end of 2015 but to say this like we didn't see Payton giving Ryan the business on the sidelines after stupid penalties is crazy...lol.

ELLIASJWILLIAMS said
It was a Pete thing because the defense didn't have accountability issues. Even the entire article is about the offensive side of the ball, stop letting your disdain for Allen show in every post.

I don't have any disdain for Dennis Allen and pretty luke warm on him. I think he is a better coordinator than coach but I will say this; I'm probably one of last people that you need to tell "it was a Pete thing" because I was one of the first people to tell you "it was a Pete thing." The problem with DA and Pete is most people were a season late, as they blamed the lack of a calming presence and then somebody forgot how to play their booty off, so we needed a savior, as Pete was being hamstrung by our 2022 QBs...lol. That is why we went and got DA's guy without any other changes. Then the issues that were there the whole time became visible to the masses. But to say I have a disdain for Dennis Allen shows you don't know that I talked way more about Sneaky Pete than I did DA.