Why Drew Brees never won MVP

44slayer said
This is all, a reach. Rodgers played at Lambeau. Brees in a dome. You can say that doesnt matter, but look at Brees' stats indoors vs outdoors. They are WILDLY different. Indoor on top, outdoor on bottom. Just 9 more games indoors and 99 more TD vs outdoors. He would have to average 11 TDs per game in 9 more outdoor games to even it out. And he would also need to average 926 yards per game in those 9 outdoor games to catch up to his indoor yardage averages. 4% higher completions. 10 Thousand more yards...in just NINE games.
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Career stats are irrelevant, we're talking solely about the 2011 season. Players can only play the game wherever it's scheduled. Outdoors, dome, rain, snow, or on the Moon, it's out of their control.

Peyton Manning won 4 of his 5 MVP's playing from a dome in 9 games minimum every one of those years, just like Brees did while he was in New Orleans. Hell, Kurt Warner even won his 2 MVP's in 1999 and 2001 playing a minimum of 10 games in a dome (due to the old NFC West alignment where they had 8 games at home then 2 additional dome road games in Atlanta and against us). Didn't matter then, why does it matter now?

If players' performances are actually penalized just for where their home games occur then the MVP is an even bigger farce than it already appears to be.
44slayer said
Also Rodgers sat out the last game of the season as they had the division and 1 seed locked up. Brees had 1 more TD and 8 more INTs. 122 to 110 qb rating.
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Yeah, Rodgers did sit out Week 17. And his backup broke 2 Packers franchise single game records (that Rodgers didn't possess at the time or ever surpassed) while absolutely torching a 10-6 Lions team that made the playoffs. All with the same cast Rodgers had. If Brees sat Week 17 in the same situation, zero shot Chase Daniel comes in and looks anywhere near as good against the Panthers as Flynn looked against the Lions, and the Panthers were a much worse team.

And speaking of QB rating, Brees was always labeled as a stat hound for throwing TD's "while the game was in hand" when we won and "racking up garbage time yards" when we lost yet nobody wants to talk about how Rodgers deliberately takes sacks instead of throwing the ball away just to protect his precious QB rating (since sacks aren't counted in the formula).

Instead of throwing an incompletion by grounding the ball on a play that's clearly dead, Rodgers willingly takes the sack and the loss of yards. It's also another reason his interception totals are generally low, he's choosing to put his team in a worse situation by now having an even longer distance to cover for a conversion (and simultaneously putting the ball at risk for a fumble) while taking an unneeded hit. All to save an incompletion for his stat line. As annoyed as I would be seeing Brees have to ground a ball at the RB's feet due to pressure in the pocket or a savvy defender sniffing out a screen, it was a necessity for the benefit of the team, even at the expense of his completion %. If Brees took meaningless sacks just to inflate his stats, his passer rating too would look like Rodgers' and his completion % would look even more otherworldly than it already does.

44slayer said
You just arent going to find anyone that knows anything about football outside of NOLA and the sunshine pumpers club that will realistically argue Brees over Rodgers in 2011.

Any other season in NFL history, Brees probably wins the MVP with his 11 numbers. That season, Rodgers won, and deserved the MVP.
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Put up all the stats, accolades, records set, and the tell the whole story of both seasons and simply take away the names/teams and you still think Rodgers wins it without any bias? Clearly I feel Brees had done enough just to edge out Rodgers as-is, but if it's a blind study, I'd wager Brees wins in a landslide.

I know I already mentioned it earlier, but it's really glossed over exactly how hard it is for a NFL QB to pull off the "Triple Crown" (leading the league in passing TD's, passing yards, and completion % all in the same year) like Brees did in 2011. In the modern era of the NFL (since the merger), it's only been accomplished thrice:
Brees was the last one to pull it off (with two of the 3 being new NFL records and the highest totals for a Triple Crown winner ever) and it hasn't been done again in 12 seasons since.

Even more hilarious, of the last 5 QB's that got close to pulling it off, 3 of them won the MVP that year:
No consistency except inconsistency in that award.