Fuaga started the AZ game and Hergel played in both games , that's game reps for both. The players you mentioned were in his 2yrs he was with the Saints. After that all his OLs were bad to mediocre and I;m not even taking into consideration the teams he was HC ( they were bad as well) How you don't know my point is kinda head-scratching. But I'll spell it out for you . It's that Penning has not had the chance to really develop due to injury, bad /wrong OL coaching and a poor coaching decision to completely bench him not even using him in jumbo formations like they did in his few games as a rookie when it's the development that we all knew he needed when we drafted him. AND that while TP does need to get out of his head , it's the COACHING staff that broke his confidence and created this problem. Get my point now?