did i hear mort say we are near a deal w/giants for shockey

Because another team might give up a lot to move up 10 picks in the draft, whereas you could trade down, pick up what they're giving, and still draft the same guy. That's the only way it matters. If there's no one to trade down to, then you have to take the guy you want, reach or not.

As I said - if we can't trade down, and he's the guy we want, why not take him? It's a moot point IMO. If you like a player that you think fits your system and you can't trade down there is no excuse to not go after that player.