From pass heavy to run balanced - Identifying where Klint Kubiaks philosophy can be felt the most.

SirLoinSaint64 said

I just don't want to see a pass on 2nd and 1,2, or 3. The past OC was terrible in that regard. Or, a 20 yard fade against the sideline where everything has to be perfect to convert on 3rd and 4 or 5. So frustrating. And while I'm at it, throws at or behind the line of scrimmage when there's 8+ yards to gain on 3rd down. Dang. :)

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If you have a good running game, 2nd and 2 is where you take your shot though. If it’s set up correctly, where defenses read run, the offense sets it up right and you have that one guy go for it (miss Henderson) and take your shot it can be the difference between a near TD or a 3rd and 2. With Hill on your team, 3rd and 2 is a pretty makable down and distance.


The problem with Payton’s offense, which became horrible at the end was the player personnel groupings let everyone know exactly what the play was. In the beginning with Brees this worked because Brees would throw to whoever got open. Although run plays everyone knew. Bush in the game was a pass, Ingram in was a run. Thomas was the only one who could do both. But towards the end Pete had it where he was putting in players for a specific play it seemed and that was how it was run. The creativity was just not there anymore and they didn’t have the player talent to make up for it.