Agreed, but I think that "hate" is a vocal minority. Most folks I know still like him and I remain a fan. He seemed to be in a rut here and I thought it was time for a change. Without him, I don't think the Saints are in NOLA any more. Most fans under the age of 32 would not understand the constant threat of moving the team faced. Broncos fans are in meltdown mode, though, over him. I think Payton's schemes are a bit too complex for young QB's. He developed his system with Brees' help.