I mean, suit yourself, but it doesn't hold water to me. They're different scenarios that require different responses.
I dispute it because no force was required with TH. That's the difference. The cops chose to use force when it wasn't warranted. And this is precisely why the cop was fired.
And who brought it up is irrelevant.
There was nothing to defuse up until that point. You had an understandably nervous Hill telling them not to knock on the window and go do what you gotta do. He's clearly stressed and nervous. A good cop will say thank you for the ID and will go process the ticket. And TH was not afforded anything of the sort. What the heck sort of comment is that? What exactly did Hill do that warranted a physical reaction? Speeding doesn't warrant a physical reaction, his comments didn't warrant a physical reaction, his rolling the window up, then back down 1/3 of the way didn't warrant a physical reaction. There's literally no reason to open his door and pull him out other than the cops being bullies. I mean, if defending bullies is your thing, ok then.
I'd love for this to go before a jury, the police would be in a world of hurt in a courtroom on this. There's a reason the cop was fired in this case.
He did crack the window 1/3 of the way open. In fact, the cop even says they're taking him out of the car AFTER he's already opened the window. It's like he responded like a spoiled brat because he didn't get exactly what he wanted.
What is done in your state is irrelevant. What matters is Florida and local laws. I give a cop whatever he asks me to give him. If he only says ID, I give him ID. If he asks for more, I give him whatever he requests. It's that simple.
Irony thinking TH is the bully here. Smh.
Sure, we'll see.
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