Meanwhile Sean Payton is Sean Paytoning in Denver {Thread from September Bumped }

sfidc3 said

Actually, while I agree that CSP is known as a "pass happy" coach, I think it is really a misnomer.....he is more of a situational match up type coach....I can list multiple years where your premise regarding the run/pass ratio is demonstrably false (below are full seasons, not a game or 2).....

2006 run pass was 45-55
2009 45-55
2017 45-55
2018 48-52
2019 42-58
2020 49-51

And, not coincidentally, those were some of the Saints best years, I think CSP was always striving for balance....you can argue that he often abandoned the run too soon some years but to call him "pass happy" is not accurate....IMO

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I could be wrong but I tend to think that Payton often times closed the gap in the run/pass ratio by running the ball more at the end of games that they had the lead in. That gave the impression of him being "pass happy" because he threw so much early in games. But, I think you can do that when you have Drew Brees and RBs like Pierre Thomas, Bush, and Kamara who are great in the passing game and can be used to sub short passes for runs. Payton clearly liked to set up the run with the pass which meant that sometimes if he didn't get the lead to close out, the run/pass ratio was off.

The Kubiak system clearly sets up the pass with the run.

Anyway, I think either way can work but you have to adjust to how other teams play you and how the Defenses around the league are set up. Payton didn't really do that in Brees' later years or after Brees left. He stuck with setting up the run with the pass which is much harder to do without Drew Brees and with teams playing more 4-2-5 with LBs that can really cover. The correct adjustment is to do what Kubiak is doing, attack those 4-2-5's with an outside zone running game that gets your bigger guys matched up against smaller LBs and DBs. Then once you establish the run, you can play action for big plays in the passing game.