Alright I didn't want to go this route but I play drums and after listening to so many people tell me how awesome Danny Carey was I listened to some of his stuff and it's not that great. Now, I suck at drums and just learned to back people but really he's so overrated. And what's sad is that I hear this from so many Tool fans and I wish I had a dollar for everytime someone told me that "Carey plays polythythms". Big deal, most drummers can! And far you to say that I am impressed by drumrolls and fills for that matter I'm not because that's most of what Carey plays.