To what Winston conversation are you even referring and how does that even matter here? It's clear you are overhyping Rattler and downplaying everything else. Getting 20 yards is a "good punt return." Scoring the team's first TD and making the home crowd come alive is more than just "good." And the defense didn't just get a couple turnovers; they got 3 turnovers, two of which immediately put the offense in scoring position (one as deep as the opponent's 10 yard line).