Do you have 4 years to burn on a rookie head coach? or would you rather someone like Harbough that its just a matter of time. This is my main point, the Gruden thing was just to point out his passion, we want a passionate HC that can inspire in the toughest of times. And not have your D simply give up completely after Carrs first series vs KC. (that wasnt even fair to Carr, because they did rally at some point) Or simply quit on the field vs TB. Bill B. was just an example of knowing what you're going to get. (i see we disgree on that)