There's no easy way out of this

tinman said

Yep, I can see nonsense when it's plain. If you think that Loomis had more say in the Saints roster than Payton, well good luck.
You are assuming that I blame Payton for the current situation. That is NOT the case. He is certainly responsible for a chunk of the adversity & to completely disregard his involvement is disingenuous at best.

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What I'm saying is no one knows for sure, which is fact.....if CSP was the all know it, all be it, then why was Ireland hired in the 1st place?

I'm glad to hear you aren't blaming a HC 3 years gone because in reality, he's responsible for exactly zero regarding the Saints right now, but some folks need to find a scapegoat other than the obvious problems that start with Loomis....