Nick Underhill: Players organizing a Players-Only Meeting

There's a lot more wrong with this team than the head coach and I know you're naive enough to think Allen is making front office decisions.

Loomis decides who we draft, who we sign and contracts. Scouting staff and Ireland do the leg work and have a lot of input later in the draft and UDFA but the buck stops at Loomis.

We could have signed a lot of depth with the $45 million in dead cap we're carrying this year. Hell we could have signed a legit starting guard and then some. Instead we we're forced to go bargain shopping for Patrick with nothing but disappointing low round draft picks backing him up. We couldn't even sign a tackle with starting experience to compete with Penning during TC with the loser serves as a swing tackle. We're lucky as hell Penning was up to the challenge and that somehow our two tackles are the only men left standing on offense. Imagine how bad we'd be if we got last year's Penning as our defacto starting RT. There's simply not enough talent to "coach up" much less compete at an NFL level.

Please fire Allen but let's take a second and actually acknowledge that they're coming in handicapped and until our other problems are solved, we shouldn't expect an instant turn around.

I agree with some of this, but I think you're greatly underestimating how much influence Allen and Co have on draft picks/free agent decisions. There is a very noticeable difference in the amount of draft picks that found success with the team under Payton vs the amount of busts under Allen as HC. It's certainly possible that Payton had a lot of input into the draft pick decisions, and not so much Allen. But that doesn't seem logically correct to me. Of course, there's also an argument you can make that the draft picks under Payton were just better coached up, and better put into position to succeed. That's a very valid thought process to consider. But at some level, there is a reason our draft picks under Allen work out much less, that is directly correlated to Allen.