Jameis Winston/Browns just beat the Ravens

SWJJ said

He lost the same number of games that he won for us. Zero.

We won with Winston at QB because Payton kept the reins on him and didn't let him play hero ball.

Winston was a different QB before SP and is a different QB after SP. His play under SP cannot honestly be used to substantiate the position that Winston doesn't make any more bad decisions than any other QB.

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At some point, we have to kill that narrative of "Payton kept the reins" on him. If he didn't have to go through that offseason competition with Taysom, the offense would have looked completely different. That why if you paid attention as the season went, you saw more and more. That Bucs game was going to be everything but we know what happened. Also, he wouldn't need to play "hero ball" because the first time in his NFL career, he had a defense that didn't require it.

And your last sentence actually opens up a good conversation. He seemingly makes more "bad decisions" than most because he goes vertical and willing to throw into more tighter windows than the vast majority of QBs in this modern day NFL where the goal is for a receiver to dump it off to a wide open receiver less than 5 yards in space so they can make plays. Crazy thing; this is tracked



The problem with so many of us is we don't look at things that track productivity, we care more about the appearance of it.