Nick Underhill: Saints Might Not Move on from DA

I get it, it just doesn't seem logical to me for a few reasons. Just to get the Arch Manning concept out of the conversation, he's a redshirt freshman. His family, especially Eli, have been pounding it into his head to stay in college and not entire the draft until after his senior year, which so far, he's been listening to their advice (look back him considering entering the transfer portal and Eli telling him no, to stay as Ewers backup). So it could be till 2028 when Arch enters the draft. None of us have a crystal ball so its hard to say.

To the rest of the post, the players have checked out, its true. We all see it. But the cap is in shambles. We have no draft capital. Its hard to imagine what good potential coach would want to come here next season even if we wait till the offseason to fire Dennis Allen. We'd likely end up with another below average or bottom of the barrell coach.

To top that off I think you're greatly misunderstanding what "the message" your sending impact really has. The players have "silently quit" already. Firing a head coach mid season is also incredibly dramatic. I think its unreasonable to expect people who have silently quit, to be introduced to a turmoil of drama and expect them to re-engage with any enthusiasm. Yes, it seemed to occur with the Raiders last year when Pierce took over, but its also having a negative impact on the Jets this year. And from what we've seen in the past, it rarely, if ever, has a positive outcome.

And again, you're adding an additional factor for the next head coach to consider when accepting the job. Why would Ben Johnson, or Aaron Glen accept this job when there are more stable front offices, with less drama and better cap situations pining for em? Anyone who comes in after DA will be set up for failure.
I get what you're saying, and where you're coming from. You may even be right?! I just disagree, respectfully.

Your points to NOT fire the HC mid-season are all valid reasons. I'm simply pointing out there are valid reasons TO fire the HC mid-season...I was speculating on outcomes. It would be stupid to "tank for Arch", when he's not guaranteed. Simply pointing out that PERHAPS he MIGHT be, given that time frame. But certainly not a reason to do it, just lagniappe.

We just have differing perspectives, and that's okay...groupthink is not a good thing, IMO. Your biggest concern seems to be the message to our NEXT prospective coach....that he'll be deterred due to a perceived lack of job security. I'm fine with deterring that candidate, for that reason. I want a guy who isn't worried about job security because he's CONFIDENT that he is GOING TO WIN, and winning is the best job security in the world. By all means....deter those candidates focused on job security! Give me the hungry, unknown, confident assistant/coordinator that is just itching for HIS SHOT to show what he's capable of. I can support THAT guy if it gets us out from under the current guy, and the 2nd thing can't happen fast enough IMO. Already 1/2 a season too late, IMO!

Regardless, we both want the same thing, just suggesting different ways to do it. I don't care how it happens, only that it DOES! Can't root for a team without any meaningful hope that we're moving forward...