This is the response of someone who know they can't really refute anything I said. We live in a "football society" that believes success equals skill. You will say that Jameis and Lamar isn't in the same tier but what you will point to is Lamar's success and accolades. But if you had an honest conversation about the position itself (which most don't), what I'm saying is clear. Who makes better anticipatory throws? Who is better in the pocket? Who is better at processing the field? Who has better footwork? These are things that yall never talk about when talking about QB play. You only talk about "success." There is a reason why Harbaugh (smartly) scrapped the entire Ravens timing based, WCO going into 2019. Because we all saw Lamar run it in 2018 and it wasn't pretty. They built a scheme around his strengths and what he does. This isn't saying that Lamar hasn't gotten better at passing over the years. This is saying that there are offenses that Lamar could not play in. This is why I bring up coaching and scheme the way that I do; most don't even know some of their favorites are "schemed" for success.