The most non productive sec team is?

Yeah yeah, I know the methology is suspect. The fact that such a demonstration could be made shows that Vandy is at least highly competitive in the conference. And that's the only point I was making. I totally acknowledge that you're right about the relative value of the sports and the value of championships. Nonetheless, Vandy isn't at the very bottom, to be sure.


Then there's always this:

"Top Universities", US News:
19. Vanderbilt

"Tier 3" (starts at 125 and is listed alphabetically):
LSU
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/rankindex.php

Too bad there isn't a "team" for that. When figured into the equation, I wonder were Vanderbilt would figure into overall performance as a university in the SEC, all things considered? Faculty ranking of 10, graduation rate of 89%, 1350 SAT average. The truth is, LSU could only DREAM of such success. But none of that really matters - what really counts is football right?

At least LSU has that graduation rate up from 59 to 61 percent! *thumbs up!*

Vanderbilt gives academic credibility to the conference on a scale that cannot be matched.

The SEC is the SEC... we're all pretty dang awesome. Our worst is still better than probably 99% of the other schools out there. I never said Vandie doesn't have any value. They are part of the SEC family. And I like your school, they are pretty fiesty and always play hard. I like your spirit and competitive fire.

And seeing this is a sports discussion, but you are forced to resort to academics to try and bolster your argument, then you basically proved my point.

And your point about academics? Pfft.... Give me a break. Consider this fact...

(Vandie) STUDENTS (2007/2008)
Enrollment
Undergraduate: 6,532

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/facts.html

If LSU took the top 6,500 of it's students and kicked out 30,000 of the lessor students, then we'd have similar accomplishments easily. However we choose to be a major state school and provide a quality education to a larger number of students. We could easily limit the number of students at our school and raise the admission standards, but Louisiana as a state would suffer. Plus I would bet that we get better research grants and opportunities and resources due to our size. Either way you cut it, you can get a darn good education at LSU if you want it, or you can party your brains out. Just depends on your priorities.