The most non productive sec team is?

VVextreme said
The SEC is the SEC... we're all pretty dang awesome. Our worst is still better than probably 99% of the other schools out there. I never said Vandie doesn't have any value. They are part of the SEC family. And I like your school, they are pretty fiesty and always play hard. I like your spirit and competitive fire.

And seeing this is a sports discussion, but you are forced to resort to academics to try and bolster your argument, then you basically proved my point.

And your point about academics? Pfft.... Give me a break. Consider this fact...

(Vandie) STUDENTS (2007/2008)
Enrollment
Undergraduate: 6,532

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/facts.html

If LSU took the top 6,500 of it's students and kicked out 30,000 of the lessor students, then we'd have similar accomplishments easily. However we choose to be a major state school and provide a quality education to a larger number of students. We could easily limit the number of students at our school and raise the admission standards, but Louisiana as a state would suffer. Plus I would bet that we get better research grants and opportunities and resources due to our size. Either way you cut it, you can get a darn good education at LSU if you want it, or you can party your brains out. Just depends on your priorities.

Yes, you're right, the SEC is the ****. We can agree on that. My point about academics was about the overall value of the school to the conference, which is afterall, a conference of colleges and as much as we like to overvalue atheletics, none of it would exist were it not for the underlying universities. But yes, the general discussion here was athletic, so I'll concede that point.

On your point about the top 6,500, and how easily LSU could become a top 20 academic university, I'd say you're tripping. You don't just adjust a few numbers here and there and crack likes of Georgetown, Notre Dame and Brown (schools in the 15 - 20 range). That would be like me saying "Vanderbilt could just as easily start accepting athletes on a different admissions standard than regular students like most schools and spend more money on a blue chip coach and we could be a BCS bowl team." It just aint' gonna happen.

But regardless, we can all agree that Miss State is the most non productive...lol.