No Way Rizzi can be our HC

Understood. I'm just not sold on going with a defensive mind. We tried that and failed miserably with Allen. Maybe not fair to Glenn, but we had success with Payton, and I think someone who is in the mold of the Payton approach is more what I'm looking for.

Fwiw, I'm definitely open to Kingsbury as an option.

I wouldn't let Allen failing influence my opinion. Lots of defensive guys have succeeded as head coaches so it's not like it can't work. DA just isn't a head coach.

And some of the offensive guys might not be head coaches too. Ben Johnson looks great on paper but lots of guys that are very good OCs fail when they step up to being a head coach.

Anyway, I would also prefer an offensive coach because I think it's easier to find a good to great DC that will stay as DC than find a great OC that will stay, but if the offensive guys you can get don't look to be as good at the HC job as a defensive guy like Glenn, you should hire the defensive guy instead of settling for an offensive guy you like less than Glenn. To me, Glenn is likely the worst case scenario and I wouldn't have a problem with that hire if that is what happened.