Would love to see Rizzi get more wins, but we need highest slot in the draft we can get.

Remind me how many times the Pats have been to the playoffs since then? Are they really better off? Because it sure seems like they suck to me. I would rather not suck.

How many times since then? They are in year 1 of a rebuild, so it’s difficult to judge right now. They were 4-13 the year prior with Belichick. At least they identified the time and are trying to rebuild it. They had a losing record 3 of the 4 years prior. Most people agree it was time for Belichick to move on.

I don’t see the issue with saying Loomis had a nice long run of success, but also saying it’s time to move on. He hasnt done much right the last 5 years.

I fully expect him to be around as long as the pope. But it doesn’t mean we don’t need a new direction.

Right now, we aren’t good. It doesn’t look good moving forward. We haven’t been to the playoffs in 4 years playing in the worst division in football. We’ve changed everything except the GM. Seems time to do that. Even if Loomis stays around. Let someone else be the GM.