Sean Payton is showing how fast you can turn teams around

David, you need to go back and look at the stats….Lutz made 82% of his FG’s in 2020…..Grupe’s career % is 82.5…..

That’s after 3 great seasons of 86, 93, and 90….Grupe has yet to approach that level….I agree the injury hindered what would have been really good years, he was peaking before he got hurt…..

I think we’re talking past each other. I’m familiar with his stats and was pointing out that 2020 was already a down year for him (kicking for Payton who apparently inspires greatness out of him - the point somebody made) *before* spending the next TWO seasons out hurt / kicking hurt.

I think people remember Lutz with a fondness that had waned significantly after three seasons of not being the same player he was in his first few years here. Seems like a really good guy and I’m glad his career is back on track.