Head Coach if there is no GM change
Andrus,
To be clear, this was no news report or insight based on some superior knowledge of the team’s situation. This was just a person’s opinion about the caliber of coach our job could attract based on the GM’s continued employment…pure speculation, conjecture based on his feelings on the pulse of several different individual coaches who are in fact trying to fulfill a goal and finally land their highly coveted dream job and life changing money.
All off-season long there was a tone set by moderators that needless negativity would not be tolerated, and here we are with a post bashing Loomis about a hypothetical scenario based on someone’s opinion, just fanning the flames of hatred. In other words, “Another reason you all should hate Mickey” was thought up and created, then posted on the forum, and it was indeed a notion I found to be a bit contrived and silly.
I have seen moderators themselves be dismissive towards posts like this in this same manner and tone I used when it comes to disrespect or negativity levied towards members of the Saints staff or players.
This to me was a very normal forum interaction up until the point a couple of people, including yourself, began characterizing it as if it was some HUGE show of disrespect and slap to the face at someone you like and began attributing words and very harsh insults to me that I never once stated or expressed about the guy.
I understand people’s bloods are boiling about the team more than anyone and know emotional posts/scenarios are being created and negative “what if” hypotheticals are being discussed, that doesn’t mean I think the guy is some sort of idiot, and I don’t believe any of the people that agreed with the post even thought I was expressing anything near that sort of tone.
That's not what we said, and this is the root of the problem in this discussion. You're citing what you WANTED to hear, so now I'm questioning whether you just don't "get it" or are being purposely obtuse in defense of yourself. What was ACTUALLY said, by several of us (including the man who owns & operates this forum), is that we think you ARE expressing that tone. As stated earlier, if I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt I'm not sure you MEANT to, but that's how it came across to ME. (see the difference? it's action versus intent!) I can't speak to others perspective, but it APPEARS I'm not the only one who sees it that way.
With that said, I'm not sure what your perceived persecution of ML is. I don't hate ML...the man brought CSP, a Superbowl, and 15 years of being a relevant franchise and a THREAT in the playoffs...serious RESPECT and GRATITUDE for that! But with that being said, the past 4 seasons have been a sheet-show, with ML calling the shots. SOMETHING has changed, and if I'm giving him credit for those 15 years of greatness, then he also gets the blame for the past 4. This is no different than Bill Belichick and New England. An all-time great run whose time ran out and came to an end. It appears the same has happened to ML.
What is this perceived "hypothetical scenario" that you are referring to? I think there is enough hard evidence to support my assertion that, in spite of his 15 years of greatness, ML has seriously mismanaged and bungled the franchise over the past 4 years. That, in itself, is grounds for dismissal. Just ask Bill Belichick and/or Robert Kraft. So why are you so focused on a "hypothetical scenario" that so few (maybe only you?) perceive? Is it your assertion that if the perceived hypothetical scenario is dismissed, then the hard evidence of mismanagement goes away also? Speaking only for myself, I don't care if the hypothetical scenario is true or false....if true, it's simply 1 more domino in favor of moving beyond ML; and if it's false, the existing, hard evidence to move beyond ML still outweighs the false hypothetical. That is MY OPINION.
I'm not looking for ML to be fired in disgrace. ML has earned the right to step away with grace and gratitude for all he has accomplished and all he has done for the organization. If he wants to stay with the organization in another capacity, I'd say he's earned that too. I just believe, in the simplest terms possible, it is time for a new vision and a new GM to take the Saints back to being a relevant threat. That's not "ML hate". That's recognition that the team has steadily deteriorated for 4 seasons now, under ML's watch. DA trotted out tired old cliches like "keep chopping wood" and "keep doing what you're doing"; ML trotted out the ridiculous cliche of "look beyond the results". If we're going to reduce our outlooks to cliches, here's mine...."when you find you have dug yourself into a deep hole, STOP DIGGING!"