clearing the deck - the marriage status thread

100% - though he was living in one of those temporary furnished apartments, the fact that they had not yet sold their house and he didn't have a permanent place of his own leads me to believe that there was still possibility for reconciliation.

The other thing I picked up on when we were talking is that he claims he was totally blindsided and there were no issues in the marriage & that the wife just felt like he was being too hard on their son & this was the reason for the split. I'm like yeah no, you don't have teenagers and out of nowhere your wife tells you that you're being too hard on your son and wants a divorce. Different parenting styles would have been identified long ago. Also said when she blindsided him with the trial separation that she was like "we need to go to therapy" and he was all"whoa wait where is this coming from?" and he said that she told him that the therapist helped her to realize a bunch of things and he felt that the therapist was the one driving her towards divorce.

So, while I didn't ask because I was already overwhelmed with the amount of details and over-sharing he was doing on a second date (while supposedly "over it" and "ready to move on") and convinced that this was never going to work with him and me, I got the impression that he didn't go to therapy so she was going alone. So it's like well no wonder the therapist guided her towards divorce. One person can't be doing all the work while you're in denial that your marriage even had problems. Even if you didn't think you did, which I don't believe for a second, once she said there was and that she wanted help with the issues, he was made aware that there were issues.

The other thing is that there's always 2 sides. I only ever got his.
I'm going to take you to task on this.

It's 100% possible to be in a relationship where the wife does not communicate and values around the kids changed in her mind but she never told him. I've been thru that so ur assumptions are simply that assumptions in my opinion.

From my pov and possibly his, you decided u knew everything about the man and got turned off because he was willing to be vulnerable. Men don't get a whole lot of help figuring out emotions and we do it much differently than women. He got judgement and rejection in a difficult time.

My therapist would ask me if I self-sabotaged by not even giving someone a chance to prove who they are and who they are becoming. I mean, here's a person willing to be open and honest with me and rather than communicate I projected my insecurities on them instead of opening up and connecting to that vulnerability. Was I the one not ready to move forward?