For anyone who says Carr is just a stat padder and don’t win:

Let’s not forget that you went to the wall - to the bitter end - for a bottom 5 HC in NFL history with the same copy and paste bullet points. Still waiting for him to become Bill Belichick.

Carr hasn’t won a playoff game in his 11 year career. At some point, you go through 11 divorces, even with ‘tough breaks’, eventually you might have to consider he might not be that dude and could be part of the problem - even it’s it’s just cap space and preventing a full scale rebuild. This roster ain’t built to support Derek Carr. He needs an elite roster chock full of pro bowlers to be more than he has been. He will not get that here. If he had that, sure he might win a playoff game. We are just not close to giving him that. At all.

We will never agree on sunshine pumping in the face of facts. But toeing the Loomis party line, playing super homer, just isn’t helping the franchise anymore.
By that same argument, Stafford went 12 seasons winning nothing to winning the SB with thr Rams. Why a different standard for two different qbs with very similar career stats through 11 seasons?

Carr wasn't gonna win with Allen because Allen is not a good HC and never has been. If Carr goes to a legitimate playoff team and craps the bed, then yeah. Until that happens, :shrug:.