For anyone who says Carr is just a stat padder and don’t win:
Carr is definitely the best QB they've had in recent years, but there's not a huge difference between 63-83 (.415) and 12-22 (.353). It's the equivalent of being 7-10 instead of 6-11 on average.
That’s the funny thing that’s getting missed. Some additional thoughts
Are there worse QBs than Carr? Sure are? But like people mentioning Minshew above? They mean the stop gap that failed? Sure. Now it’s over. They are likely to try again at QB. And if that doesn’t work try again. The Saints for 2025 are likely stuck with Carr and the average play he represents.
The Raiders QB situation left a lot to be desired this year but opposed to the insanity of trotting Carr out for his typical 4000 yard, 23ish TD seasons which while not bad isn’t great either. When people say “you could do a lot worse than Carr!” Some Carr backers said that for years.
As far as his “owning all the Raider passing records” mentioned above? Sure. That’s a function of his average play for a decade. Add to this over the history of the Raiders you have to go back to Stabler when the league wasn’t a passing league to have a QB that has played for them that long. Even Gannon came from somewhere else and was good to great for a five(ish) year span. As a franchise they have never really drafted QBs and typically picked up FA, Plunkett is an another example. Thats also why the Raiders sticking with Carr was so puzzling. Paying him at the time elite QB money for non-elite play.
Point being Carr had those records by default, not because he was great.
When people say “it’s a team game and it’s not all his fault” Sure but he didn’t help them either. He’s unlikely to ever be the guy that puts a team on his back. He needs a lot to go right and then he might squeak into the playoffs.
Now the same thing is playing out on the Saints.
In the end it’s likely to not matter. The Saints are likely going to jettison Carr at some point, only question is when. As far as trades? Who is trading for him? The Saints were competing against themselves last time.