Neither Dorsey nor Ellis goes past #9...

You mean the bengals to #7? I think the Pats could do that with them but it will be for some serious stuff. the pats have a rep for accumulating picks but i can see it happening. They can still get their CB or LB they want. So i hope the saints trade to either #7 or #8. I think this is the battleground area for us. #7 or #8.